[Подтверждено] Поиск подземелий и КД

[Toyota]

Если регаешь конкретку - то вешается кд,
если регаешь случайку - то тебя кидает в инст, даже если у тебя есть кд.

А доказательства?

[Dontcrybaby]

А доказательства?

с времен офы так всегда было и остаётся. типо если ты хочешь только определенный инст - то лови кд, а если ты регаешь ппг через случайку - то кд не ловишь и спокойно регаешь нонстоп.

[Toyota]

с времен офы так всегда было и остаётся. типо если ты хочешь только определенный инст - то лови кд, а если ты регаешь ппг через случайку - то кд не ловишь и спокойно регаешь нонстоп.

То, что оно так в 2020 — доказательства есть в соседней теме. То, что оно так было на 3.3.0 - 3.3.5a никем не представлена подтверждающая информация

[Dontcrybaby]

То, что оно так в 2020 — доказательства есть в соседней теме. То, что оно так было на 3.3.0 - 3.3.5a никем не представлена подтверждающая информация

Так найди пост за 2008 в патчноутах, уже же кидали и фиксили это. Просто, скорее всего, снова через жопу сделали или не сделали вовсе.

[Toyota]

Так найди пост за 2008 в патчноутах, уже же кидали и фиксили это. Просто, скорее всего, снова через жопу сделали или не сделали вовсе.

В Patchnotes этого нет. Что именно кидали?

3.3.0:

• Dungeon Finder
  
  • This feature has replaced the Looking For Group tool and provides all-new dungeon party creation functionality.
    
    • Players can join as individuals, as a full group, or a partial group to look for additional party members.
    • Groups using this tool will be able to teleport directly to the selected instance. Upon leaving the instance, players will be returned to their original location. If any party member needs to temporarily leave the instance for reagents or repairs, they will have the option to teleport back to the instance.
    • Players can choose the Random Dungeon option.
      
      • The Heroic Wrath of the Lich King Daily Random Dungeon option will award two [Emblems of Frost] no more than once a day.
      • The normal Wrath of the Lich King Daily Random Dungeon option will award two [Emblems of Triumph] no more than once a day.
      • Continuing to complete Wrath of the Lich King Heroic instances using the Daily Random Dungeon option will award players two additional Emblems of Triumph each time.
      • Daily Heroic and normal dungeon quests have been removed. These quests have been replaced with weekly raid quests (see the "Quests" section for details).
      • Level-appropriate rewards will be offered to players who choose the Random Dungeon option for pre-Wrath of the Lich King dungeons.
      • Players can be placed in a group for a random dungeon no more than once every 15 minutes.
      • Random Dungeon rewards will be placed in each player's inventory automatically upon completion of the dungeon (final boss killed). A pop-up notification will display any rewards earned through the Dungeon Finder.
      
      
    • Instead of choosing a random dungeon, players can also choose specific dungeons appropriate for their level range. Multiple instances can be selected at one time. The feature no longer limits the choice to look for only 3 dungeon groups at one time.
    • Pick-Up Groups
      
      • Cross-realm instances are now available and use an improved matchmaking system to assist players in looking for additional party members. As with Battlegrounds, the realms in each Battlegroup are connected.
      • As part of the matchmaking system, some of the more difficult dungeons will have a minimum gear requirement. Players also need to meet the requirements for dungeons that require attunement, such as keys or quests. If a player does not meet the requirements for a particular dungeon, a lock icon will be displayed next to that dungeon. Hovering over this icon will display the requirements which have not been met.
      • Only conjured items and loot dropped in a dungeon for which other party members are eligible can be traded between players from different realms.
      • A Vote Kick feature will be available in the event a member of a party is not performing to the expectations of the other members.
      • Players who leave the group prematurely are subject to a Deserter debuff preventing them from using the Dungeon Finder for 15 minutes.
      • If an existing group loses a member, the leader will be asked if he or she wants to continue the dungeon. Choosing to continue will automatically place the group back into the Dungeon Finder queue.
      • A Player will not be placed in a group with people on his or her Ignore list.
      • Players who take part in groups who have one or more members who have been matched with them randomly from within the Dungeon Finder will receive extra rewards, up to and including the coveted [Perky Pug] non-combat pet. The more random players with whom one groups, the faster the pet can be obtained.
      • The Need Before Greed loot system will be the unalterable default looting system for pick-up groups in the Dungeon Finder and has been updated.
        
        • Need Before Greed will now recognize gear appropriate for a class in three ways: the class must be able to equip the item, pure melee will be unable to roll on spell power items, and classes are limited to their dominant armor type (ex. paladins for plate). All items will still be available via Greed rolls as well as the new Disenchant option should no member be able to use the item.
        • Players will be able to roll on items with a required minimum level higher than a player's current level.

3.3.3:

Dungeon Finder

• The Deserter debuff given to players who leave a dungeon prematurely when queuing via the Random Dungeon option has been increased to 30 minutes, up from 15 minutes. The cooldown for using the Random Dungeon option remains 15 minutes.
• The Random Dungeon cooldown is no longer displayed as a debuff. Instead, players will see the cooldown time remaining displayed in the Dungeon Finder window when Random Dungeon or Random Heroic Dungeon is selected from the pull-down.
• If a player in your party has the Deserter debuff, or is on cooldown from the Random Dungeon option, his or her character name will be displayed in the Dungeon Finder window listed as "On Cooldown," preventing the group from queuing.
• Anyone in a dungeon party can now re-queue their group for a dungeon, as players will still be prompted whether or not to accept their chosen role.
• Players who use the Vote Kick option will now be prompted to provide a reason for kicking a party member. This reason will be presented to everyone in the party except for the person voted to be kicked.
• When joining as a group, more generous level requirements will be used instead of Random Dungeon level requirements so that players of different levels joining together will be eligible for a greater number of dungeons.
• Parties randomly created via the Dungeon Finder will always be arranged in the party interface from top to bottom in the following order: tank, healer, damage, damage, damage.
• If a random party is created via the Dungeon Finder and a player cannot roll Need on an item, a reason will now be provided.
• Players can no longer roll Need on [Frozen Orb]s in dungeons under Need Before Greed loot rules. Pass and Greed options will still be available.

3.3.5:

The functionality of the Vote Kick feature in the Dungeon Finder will now behave differently according to a player's history with the system. Players using the Dungeon Finder who rarely vote to kick players from a group, or rarely abandon groups before a dungeon is complete, will find that the Vote Kick option will have no cooldown. For players who frequently abandon groups or vote to kick other players, the Vote Kick option will be kept on a cooldown. This functionality will adjust itself as a player's behavior while using the Dungeon Finder changes.

[Dontcrybaby]

не, с 3.0 или 3.1 что ли патчноты.

Что именно кидали

типо если ты хочешь только определенный инст - то лови кд, а если ты регаешь ппг через случайку - то кд не ловишь и спокойно регаешь нонстоп.

так оно и логично, потому что народ на старте патчей регали нонстоп и одевались

[ghost_S]

не, с 3.0 или 3.1 что ли патчноты.

ЛФГ ввели в патче 3.3.0.

[Toyota]

так оно и логично, потому что народ на старте патчей регали нонстоп и одевались

Ну и сейчас можно регать non-stop ППг и одеваться, до того как словишь CD на все подземелья — это не показатель. Мало кто за сутки проходит все подземелья, даже если выключены TBC кривые mythic'и

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не, с 3.0 или 3.1 что ли патчноты.

Там было LFG — это совершенно иная система

[Dontcrybaby]

до того как словишь CD на все подземелья

а я тебе про другое

[Toyota]

а я тебе про другое

Вот чтобы было другое — нужны аргументы, а не просто ля-ля-ля

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ЛФГ ввели в патче 3.3.0.

LFG раньше. В 3.3.0 ввели систему Dungeon Finder (ПП)

[Dontcrybaby]

перепутал значит...
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Dungeon_Finder
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Vote_Kick